Tatiana was recently interviewed at Freedompalooza about her efforts to join the Liberty movement with the Occupy movement. Read the full article below.
Paul Supporters & Occupy Wall Street?
July 6, 2012
By Lawrence SinclairEfforts Underway By Paul Supporters To Join Forces With Occupy Protesters
During Freedompalooza this past weekend we had the opportunity to listen to and speak with a host of performers and speakers who are very active in the Liberty Movement. Whether you are Libertarian or not we would strongly urge all of our readers to take the time to read and watch Mike Salvi and to listen to the music and ideas of Tatiana Moroz among others.
It was listening to Mike Salvi on Saturday June 30, 2012 in Kintnersville, PA that we picked up and a very key statement that everyone, regardless of your political positions would be wise to take to heart: “If you sit around waiting for a movement you are going to be disappointed, you make your own movement, if you have something to say and you present it in a way that will make people want to hear it then that is your movement” (this is paraphrasing Salvie’s statement which we have on video and are working to get uploaded as soon as possible). Salvie was spot on in telling people if you wait for a movement to come along you are going to be disappointed.
Tatiana Moroz who is an extremely talented song writer and singer is also very active in the ‘grassroots for Liberty’ cause. It was Saturday afternoon while speaking with Moroz, Salvi, Panzella and a few others that I listened to them talk about their efforts to join forces with the Occupy Philly group. While just the mention of joining with Occupy might be enough to make people want to stop reading this, we encourage you to continue reading.
Mike Salvi provided us with a description of what took place the first time he and some in the Liberty Movement went to Occupy Philly. Salvi said their equipment was vandalized, their property was defecated on, an Occupy participants were not all that welcoming. Yet despite those disgusting actions Salvi and others refused to let that interfere with their desire to engage with the Occupy Philly protesters. Since that first encounter, Salvi and Moroz have made great inroads in bringing the Occupy and Liberty movement people towards joining forces. That very Saturday, June 30, 2012 Salvi and Moroz were heading out to attend a joint Liberty Movement/Occupy Philly rally. One would first ask, why on earth would the Liberty Movement and Paul supporters want to join forces with the Occupy movement? The short & quick answer then would be because both groups adamantly oppose the Federal Reserve, Banks, and the wars.
During a discussion on the very topic of Libertarians joining forces with Occupy with Pay Day Monsanto, Pay Day put it like this: The Liberty Movement sees it like Obama-Romney are Goldman Sachs, with no one knowing who is ‘Goldman’ and who is ‘Sachs,’ but knowing it doesn’t matter because both are one and the same. This is not only the position of Libertarians, its common knowledge that many Republicans, Democrats, and Independents also see the two in the same comparison. The one distinguishing difference as far as Libertarians are concerned is they truly believe that with Obama less innocent people will die as a result of US engaged wars as would under a Romney White House.
The first problem we see in such a joint effort is that while Libertarians oppose the wars, for the most part Libertarians while opposing the war still tend to show support and respect to the men & women who serve in the United States Military. The Occupy protesters have demonstrated no support or respect for the men & women in the US Military. During Freedompalooza we noticed that the attitudes toward the war are firm and opposed, but for the most part that position is not directed at the men and women who are serving in the military and doing what they are supposed to do in following orders.
The second problem we see with such a joint effort is that the Liberty movement and Ron Paul supporters believe that Government should stay out of our lives while Occupy believes the Government show be more involved and some even suggest the government should take Hugo Chavez like actions and nationalize certain industries.
The third problem we see with a Liberty/Libertarian-Occupy joint movement is that while Libertarians are passionate about where they stand they have rarely if ever engaged in violence to make their point where as the Occupy movement has engaged in violence against other persons as well as participating in the vandalism of others property.
Regardless of what any of us might think about a joining of forces between the Liberty Movement and Occupy Movement, what we can take from such an effort is a point that we believe Salvi makes best: If you do not at least try to talk to one another and build on the things that you have in common then no one will succeed in the end. Its only too bad that no one has employed the same reasoning in trying to build on those things that the Tea Party and the Liberty Movement have in common (which might well be more than what they have in common with Occupy) and try to build more solid bridges in order to stop the Obama destruction train.
Will Occupy and Liberty join forces, your guess is as good as ours, but one thing is certain: if the Ron Paul supporters and the Liberty movement do join forces with Occupy, Ron Paul will retire from his years in Congress with a black-eye to the very foundation which allowed him to serve for so, so many years with that “R” before the “TX.” As all it will take to give those who already try to marginalize and dismiss Paul people as ‘fringe’ is for them to join forces with occupy and someone get hurt in a protest and the Liberty Movement will forever be branded.
We have said it before and we will say it again, if you allow the ego’s to dictate how you choose to conduct yourselves, you will never accomplish what you set out too because the ego will always cause you to do something that will hurt you in the end. Whether you agree with the Liberty Movement or those who call themselves Libertarians, the only way to bring about any coalition is to start talking face to face instead of via Face Book, Twitter or text message: Salvi, Moroz and others at least are making that effort.
